介绍：Smart messaging app that helps you say more and do more.
Jaynti Kanani: Loved it so far. Quick replies are really quick. It is actually picking up Hindi (written in English) words currently and using them as quick replies - that's quite interesting.
Guy Shimoni: Not available in Israel ☹️
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Only one device support like Duo, uninstalled. Messenger has multiple devices, desktop, tablet etc. Also messenger has voice and video calls and bots. Ignore this and Google will try again with some else....
In 2016 to be tied to one device? iMessage is even better although not a serious platform since only what 20% of the world can ever use it.
Abbas Jaffar Ali: Can this be set as the default text/SMS app for Android? I installed it and it didn't show up under settings-> default app for texting.
Things you can do with Google Allo:
• Respond without typing, with a single tap
• Shout or whisper it to get your point across
• Draw on photos and add text (like Snapchat)
• Respond with Stickers (because it's 2016) and...
Get help from your Google Assistant: the bot that rules all bots. Just add @google, and your Assistant is ready to suggest restaurants, find movies nearby, YouTube videos, sports scores and stats, anything you like. Google is quite good at AI.
Gabe O'Leary: It's Hooli Chat
Shaun Dunne: "By default, Google will store all non-Incognito messages on its servers in order to improve its AI bot service, according to the report. Messages can still be manually deleted or Incognito mode can be enabled to turn on end-to-end encryption." - Yeah, I think I'll give Allo a skip.
Nick Rempel: Not available in Canada ☹️
Ernst: This looks cool and I'm really going to try it! It just is disappointing ,with all of these great new messenger apps, that most of my contacts are using Whasapp and refuse to switch.
Mark Chang: We're rolling this out as quickly as we can!
Scott Wyden Kivowitz: I'm sorry but how many messaging apps does Google really need?
It looks pretty good. However, I wonder how does one convince their peers to make the switch to yet another messaging app? What is Google's plan to achieve this?
I mean, we Product Hunters are usually early adopters, but it takes far more time for regular users to make this kind of move.
Amit Fulay: "Send cat pics everyday at 11am" - Assistant in Allo can do interesting stuff, try it yet?
Mak Thái: Still waiting for Allo to be released in Vietnam :-s
A ton of people scratched their head when Google announced two new mobile communication apps at IO: Duo (Google's "Apple FaceTime") and Allo (Google's "Facebook Messenger"). Now that they've revealed more details about the app, it's starting to make more sense. The potential here comes from Google Assistant platform, which will be rolling out to Google Home (Google's "Amazon Alexa").
The Verge's @backlon has a detailed review (text and video) of the new app.
James Downing: Why not just add this to Hangouts? Why the product fragmentation?
Brad Brooks: Fragmentation. It's the Google way.
Karim Daghari: https://twitter.com/snowden/stat...
Why make the decision not to support true SMS fallback at launch? With such a crowded market for messaging apps, I question the decision to pursue the short-code SMS relay route. Sure, my iPhone-using contacts will get a download link (boosting adoption), but am I more likely to annoy them than to get them to download a new thing?
How big a factor in potential mass adoption is any individual user's (and potential advocate's) aversion to accidentally spamming their contacts?
As a privacy nut-job, I'll be the naysayer here and say, thanks but no thanks. I'm already considering storing my phone in a Faraday cage until I need it. This is just one more way that the phone can be used against me. All reports I am seeing is that for "machine learning" everything Allo records is stored permanently. This means that at some point, a government will demand access.
On a side note, anyone else making the "Allo, Allo" joke? (old british sitcom?) No? Just me? :)
James Campbell: @mchang Let me know when it's in the UK. Building a bot based startup and super interested.
Lauren L Perfors: @overra @mchang Agreed, it'd be great to consolidate this tool and Hangouts together. Right now Hangouts, Voice and now this tool are all disjointed. Would be ideal if they all became one kick-a$$ solution.
Adam Snodgrass: @mchang I look forward to the day that there's a desktop client. Until then it's Hangouts for me and my friends 🙁 (edit: maybe add the features to Hangouts?)
@mchang Been playing around playing around for a few hours. So far so good. Getting great results from Assistant and good smart predictions too. I did get a random "action_result" result while talking to the assistant, though.
Not too interested about SMS support. Haven't sent an SMS in yearrrs. Probably the biggest thing on my wish-list is a web app. I don't like typing slowly on a mobile when I'm sat at my laptop, so I can see myself changing between Allo and other apps depending if I'm at my laptop or not (and possibly the recipient of the message doing the same if they are at their laptop). Second is adding someone by QR, ID, or email. Some people want to chat but don't want to give out their number.
Congrats on the release.
@chrismessina I hear that. I think we will see people continue to move away from SMS over time, but I think claiming that focusing on SMS would hamper product development is a bit of a cop out for two reasons:
1. When you're entering a market with so many competitors this late, you must account for network effects. How do you achieve critical mass when everyone's already got their favorite messenger? You know what else hampers innovation? A lack of traction. A lowest common denominator is a boon in this scenario, especially had Google positioned Allow as "Android's iMessage," and then given it AI superpowers.
2. There isn't a single feature of Allo that is wholly incompatible with SMS fallback. Stickers? Yeah, send them as SMS. Google's "Messenger," which is solely for SMS has exactly that functionality. Read receipts? Don't offer them for SMS messages. Frankly, all these issues are already addressed relatively well by iMessage or even by Facebook Messenger, which can be set as a default messaging application on Android. Heck, even Hangouts has attempted (albeit clumsily) to address these issues.
I get that any company wants to move away from the ugly stepchild that is SMS (and even uglier, MMS) and focus their efforts on the future, but you're not going to do it without a strong user base and a strong foundation.
Maybe future releases will reveal that Google plans to make Allo the messenger they referred to in their Jibe/RCS update email. Maybe everything I think will be proven wrong. Right now, I'm pretty skeptical.
Amit Fulay: @stevecaldwell set alarm works on android, not iOS
James Downing: @callmedpit Yeah, I really don’t see what’s being done here that couldn’t have been done in a Hangouts revamp. Maybe there’s too much legacy stuff in there, since Hangouts was built on top of Google Talk?
Avi Zuber: @guyshimoni Yeah, maybe. It's a device I had in the US and made Aliyah with it.
Max Ade: @mchang Congrats on the launch, Mark! Everytime I see a dogfood email from you, it brings me back to the Startup Institute days...
keyul: @dan_o_mite Yes. I was able to download on next day.
Harshad Kale: @amitfulay @madhu_ It has been working flawlessly (at least when it does) for Marathi. Maybe it is just a fluke or Machine Learning or whatever else but it does prompt me with Marathi words which are accurate responses for the context. Of course, written in Roman script, Maringlish or Minglish? Maybe 😜
Dan Downs: @keyul I'm a bit late to reply to you, but have you checked to see if you can download it yet? The app sends a "preview" to people on Android who don't have it yet. Basically it's Instant Apps, which Google has said is coming soon.
Aya Shapir: @mchang looking forward to checking it out.. when will it be available in international stores?
Julian Praest: @mchang Excited to see how the growth strategy and the user acquisition process to reach a "critical mass" is planned out - competing against the valuable network externalities/effects of existing, competing messaging applications; Allo is probably going to rely on the integration of other Google products, such as the Gboard's image/Gif searching functionalities and/ or the YT-community in that regard. Taking a brief look at its functionalities that it rolls out with lets me get the impression that it's primarily targeted at a younger audience (stickers, the unique "delighting" funct. such as shouting/whispering, as well as drawing on pictures) - but I miss a convenient videochatting feature. Looking forward to see it evolve in the next months!
Guy Shimoni: @avizuber Is your device connected to the U.S Appstore?
Steve Caldwell: @amitfulay ah ok. I'm sure the team is on it, but perhaps the assistant could be a bit more clear in its response to avoid confusion.
Matt Gardner: @androidlove Wait like you can only be logged into one device at a time? No desktop is a non-starter for me already.
Paul Kemp: @mchang thanks for building another great app. Soon, my iphone will have more useful Google apps on it than Apple's own native apps.
Mickey Bennet: @slobatch . Google is a major player in RCS, the next update to SMS that should be adopted by all carriers. This should play some part in their decision
Seth Rubenstein: @mchang Loving Allo so far... but seriously we need proper gif search and insert mechanism. Also letting Allo be our default SMS client would be nice to not have YET ANOTHER messaging app to interface with. iMessage's success isn't some mystery. Its because they seamlessly integrated SMS and Chat into one app.
Ghobs: @mchang What was your team's logic for not integrating sms fallback into threads the way iMessage does it? Without that functionality, this is just another chat app that people have to convince their friends to install. I'm honestly baffled by the decision.
Amit Fulay: @pazarando rolling out, stay tuned..
Steve Caldwell: @mchang Any tricks to getting certain actions to work? Seems like alarms, etc aren't performing as advertised.
Nick Budidharma: @mchang I would love to use this as my main messaging app, but non-allo users aren't receiving my SMS messages, and I'm unable to set Allo as my default SMS app :(
Ludwig Dumont: @franzwagner_ternus Hi so thanks for the explanation, but I'm basically trying to figure out when and why this will be used. Currently it seems as if the incognito part only covers the sender's identity and not the receiver's one. So I'm wondering about the motivator behind this...Is a potential use case like sending messages to your secret crush or telling people what you think of their POV without revealing who you are...
Del Williams: @slobatch @chrismessina are you forgetting Google owns a mobile OS, and those Androids are sold more than iPhones. Second, I help people move their stuff from one device to another, whoever lied and said sms was going away is a moron. In the USA, it's still the cheapest way to communicate.
Franzwagner Ternus: @ludwigdumont The incognito chat works just like the normal chat, but instead of Google saving the messages, it activates the end-to-end encryption and allows the user to set an expiration timer for each message.
Pedro A. Wunderlich: @mchang Pretty impressive that all the animations on the website are done by code. Great work. Can't wait for this to roll out in Latin America.
Leonel More: @mchang can I do something to get early access?
Avi Zuber: @guyshimoni I'm in Israel and I was able to download it. But my wife - on the same wifi connection, same type of device, same carrier (Golan) - could not get it. So I'm not sure what their deal is.
David P.: @jellychip I too just don't really get it. It's not like FB Messenger has multiple apps for chat. So now there is Hangouts, Allo and Duo from Google. I use Hangouts quite a bit from desktop in gmail and on the phone...but now I have to use multiple apps and possibly message people in multiple places, or am I missing something? They should have just boosted Hangouts with all the functionality to compete with others like Messenger. Plus Hangouts (at least did) allow to either SMS or Hangout somebody, I loved that for the people that didn't have hangouts...keeping it all in one app.
Björn Bakker: @rrhoover what would be your bet on Allo?
Greg 'X' Willis: @werewookiee @jellychip That's understandable that it's struggling, but not too focus on improving it when it has an established base is not going to win a lot of new people for Allo. This product doesn't bode well with Google's product support track record. Honestly Allo will be a niche product in a sea of messaging apps.
Onutz Verde: @chris_thomson1 GBoard
Willie Morris: @slobatch Agreed. Not being backwards compatible with SMS is a deal breaker for me. I don't buy into it hampering product innovation, there's ways to gracefully fallback until SMS is officially dead. I switched over to Android about a month ago and the biggest issue I have is messaging. Nothing quite compares to iMessage and Apple managed to fallback to SMS support for non-imessage users. I was hoping Allo would be that app for Android.
Venkatesh Thallam: @mchang This looks great. Are you planning to build GIF's into the app? if not you should build, they are fun.
Mickey Bennet: @jellychip Hangouts has been struggling with a userbase, and some of this technology is easier to build from the ground up than add to an old product
Nick Rempel: @msitver I come down pretty often :D. Don't think I can give up Vancouver Island for long though
@alexzibrit admittedly, I am biased as an American user of messaging services, and SMS has been largely unlimited here for years now. It may very well even be that I'm not Google's intended market with this play.
Genuinely curious, do you expect your contacts will switch over to Allo to chat with you, or do you expect most of them to continue using WhatsApp? (Sorry if that sounds combative, I actually want to hear how you think things will go.)
Mickey Bennet: @mchang So far, I love it! When I ask assistant about herself, after answering, it'll ask me back, but whatever I answer, it will respond "I don't think that answers the question"
Justin-Alexander: @slobatch I constantly see this critique of Allo around the web and I find it astonishing, mostly because most Americans don't seem to be aware of the fact that SMS incurs it's own individual charge per message in many countries, for instance in my current country of residence (Barbados) each text amounts to $0.20, which you can imagine adds up pretty quickly. This alone is what made Whatsapp the leading messaging client here after the Blackberry and BBM boom died. Thus if messages defaulted to sending an SMS without a connection it would inconvenience most users. Frankly I like what Google appears to be doing, which is sending an SMS from a proxy number when a contact doesn't have Allo installed or sending a notification via play services, it seems like a better decision rather than continuously clinging to the inferior SMS, which was supposed to be "Killed off" by these messaging apps in the first place
Dicky Johan: @ssieg yep works now, but strangely, when I search for allo in app store, it did not show up before...
Chris Messina: @slobatch backwards compatibility tends to hamper product innovation and force lowest common denominator design. Most of the features of Allo don't translate back to text-only well. How would you do stickers? Expensive MMS? Read receipts? Not possible. Allo is for users with data or who are on Wi-Fi. It's about the next 10 years of messaging, not the past... at least as far as I would attempt to understand their strategy.
Chris Thomson: @carlosdece Stickers are much more expressive than text. You know what they say, a sticker is worth more than a ten words.
Chris Thomson: @jellychip They want Hangouts to be for enterprise users.
Chris Thomson: @vthallam It supports GIFs if you have them on your phone or use a keyboard that can search them. But yes, would be good if the app could search GIFs too :)
Venkatesh Thallam: @sarthakgh @rrhoover @backlon Yes! That's great. A friend pinged me and i had no idea that i have Allo. It showed me an option for instant reply or download. This will definitely help in user acquisition too.
@rrhoover @backlon The app preview notification on Android is very interesting. Probably laying foundation for Instant Apps.
"If they’re on an Android phone, something new and intriguing happens. Google is calling it an "app preview notification," and basically it shoots a notification directly to your Android device instead of going through SMS. Your friend will get a notification that looks and acts almost as if they had the app installed in the first place, message content and all. It means they won’t incur any SMS fees, either. Your recipient can reply within the notification, or tap on it to install the app."
madhu_: @amitfulay Kannada and Tamil would be awesome. Sundar Pichai would appreciate the inclusion of Tamil ;)
Amit Fulay: @_jdkanani yes we have smart replies for Hinglish..... will develop for more languages in the coming months..
Amit Fulay: @madhu_ 😄
Jason Pittam: @tomfrauenfelder Allo is rolling out globally over the next few days.
Jason Pittam: @stas_kulesh Allo is rolling out globally over the next few days.
Nick Rempel: @tomaswilliamsa 🌲
Tomas Williams: @nbrempel yay! the Island!
Michael Sitver: @nbrempel You're always welcome down-south.
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