介绍：Build a fully functional web app without any code
Blake Rubin: This could be huge for anyone looking to get into business but may not have the experience!!
I'm Emmanuel, cofounder of Bubble with @jphaas1. We're excited to have it here!
We started Bubble because we think that more people should be able to build things online, and the main bottleneck so far is learning how to code. So instead of teaching everyone how to code (which is great for educational purposes), we think we should rethink how people create software. So we came up with Bubble, a visual programming language that enables you to build apps (web apps for now, iOS is in beta) visually.
The things you can build can be quite complex. A user did clone 90% of Twitter on Bubble. Marketplaces are very much what you can build on us. It does take time (we don't offer templates to keep flexibility); cloning Twitter took about 4 days, but it's still much faster to use than code. The learning curve is about 3 hours. And after this, we handle infrastructure, servers, etc! The vision is that you should only have to focus on your app's design and functionality, and we handle the lower level stuff.
We'd love to hear your thoughts, and will be here to answer questions!
Thanks for your support!!!
Bing Chen: @estraschnov, this is seriously awesome! I love seeing tools that help not-so-tech-savvy folks build (beautiful) apps. I think this is a good fit between straight up coding (some people just don't like it) and the "LEGO-style" coding (gets really confusing for me when I tried). I have sent it to my girlfriend she will love this.
Stedman Blake Hood:
I love that Bubble allows us to cut out a step in the development process. Previously, the Client communicated with the PM who communicated with the Developer. Now that the PM can use Bubble to build, there's a much tighter feedback loop -- improving the Client's experience.
Check out www.AirDev.com -- a dev shop that does just this. I'm excited to see what other innovations Bubble gives rise to!
Ben Wheeler: Emmanuel, I've been interested in Bubble for a while! What's the best way to get a sense of how Bubble works, more deeply than the 15 sec intro video?
As a non-technical founder, I can't tell you how much I love Bubble.
During the research phase of my startup I was getting quotes from developers that ranged from "how in the world is this so cheap... I don't trust it will be a solid project" to "I have to stop everything I love about this concept to hit a round of fundraising."
Then, after three months I stumbled on Bubble.
Four months later, I launched. FOUR MONTHS. That's it!
Bubble enabled me (and continues to!) to experiment, play, and make ideas come to life.
Thank you @estraschnov @jphaas1!
Emil Mikhailov: Holy Moly! that is so good!
Namita Joshi: This looks amazing. would like to watch a longer video on how it works but will go ahead and try it out
Joshua BΞRK: Works perfectly with https://localizejs.com/ for internationalisation -- which means you can scale it beyond an MVP too! :)
Glen One N:
Hey guys, I've just been pushing around in the tutorials and love it! I have a project that i'd like to build in it and it will be epic for me. I know I can do it in Bubble - it's just how....
Do you think I can get some more assistance until I get up to speed?
It's a bit fiddly.... ;)
Marcell Almeida: Awesome guys! This will surely help a lot of entrepreneurs to create MVP's real quick without the need of a developer.
David Iwanow: Just starting playing around with this, I love the tutorials!
Joe Filcik: Awesome. Looks cool. Added it to my collection of "No Code Programing" apps -http://www.producthunt.com/@jfil... - :)
Adelyn: This is such a cool product! Amazing!
Dan Seider: This sounds amazing! Will be recommending and maybe even trying out myself! Thanks for creating this.
Well done on the great launch guys, this definitely looks like a great tool for non-technical founders looking to prototype & MVP.
For me though, as a front end developer, I immediately thought how will this work on mobile and responsively in general? Intrigued to hear how dragging an input here and another element there will translate when the screen real estate is smaller. As a result of challenges like this, I personally can't see something like this replacing hand-coded web apps from technical founders, as with front end frameworks like Foundation & Bootstrap & back end frameworks like Laravel Spark & Ruby on Rails the learning curve & time required is minimal and provides a better experience all round (or so I would imagine!). Possibly for first level MVP's but beyond that, I'd be surprised.
Darren J Smith: As a Product/UX guy who is familiar with coding (but a terrible programmer), this has just opened up a wealth of possibilities. I have a dozen mini products I'd like to build and this sounds like the perfect platform!
Emmanuel, so great to interview you about the successful launch here on Product Hunt - here is the interview link
Manuel Maccou: Learning about this couldn't have come at a better time! Are there any limitations with facebook APIs?
Paul Katsen: This video blew me away when I first saw it:. Congrats @estraschnov on launch!
Éric Christophe: This product is very cool! Really love it.
Hassan Zeeshan: A very useful tool for anybody to build a web application. Looking forward to the iOS version.
My name is Adam, content strategist and PR coordinator at DigitalOcean.
I met Emmanuel a couple of months ago and have been impressed by him and Josh ever since. They have worked their asses off to bootstrap their company and stay true to their vision; mainly, that programming and coding should be divorceable skill sets. And that we should all get on board with the idea of putting the power of software creation in more people's hands.
The common perception of visual programming is that it can't be done, especially not as a broad-use-case solution. But Tara's story and ones like it confirm that Bubble is undoubtedly an empowering platform, and will only get better with time. The idea of abstracting away the underlying workings and intracacies of tedious processes is called "progress" – and it doesn't just happen in tech, but everywhere. Just like you don't need to have a deep understanding of how your car works to get you around, you don't need to have a deep understanding of the code underneath your design. Yes, the need for specialists (mechanics and engineers) remains. But Bubble will allow more people to program their own applications, while engineers will be held to a new standard. Their free time can be spent working on problems that haven't yet been solved, as opposed to re-inventing the wheel over and over for people who can't code.
Investors and VCs are behind on this trend. Just as I believe in DigitalOcean's vision of abstracting away the complexities of web infrastructure, I believe in abstracting away the code that runs on top of that infrastructure. This is the future of tech: making things appear simpler and easier for the end user. With Bubble, the future is here.
Big congrats to the founders! Well deserved.
I'm a non-technical founder & I have been using Bubble for a while now.
Built our MVP with it, started bringing in revenue, got into 500 Startups accelerator, & continue to build with Bubble!
I've been documenting my experience building without code here --> http://bit.ly/1WISExa
As a non-technical founder without a ton of money to spend, Bubble was the best option for me. Yes, I could hire developers, but when I started, I didn't have money to hire top talent. And as a non-technical person, there's nothing more difficult than managing so-so developers b/c you have no idea whether they're doing a good job or not! Hands down, Bubble was & continues to be the best option for us!
Amazing work guys. Congrats on the success.
This is looking awesome, I will build something tomorrow.
@estraschnov congratulations on the launch! I have to say I admire the bold vision behind Bubble – I'm not sure we'll ever see a world where developing software happens without any code, but your product is making building products much more widely accessible. Congrats!
One question: how do you see the impact of Bubble in the education sector?
Emmanuel Straschnov: @ajm5338 @jphaas1 Not really (yet). We've been resisting so far to the idea of templates, as we saw that our users were deleting everything when we suggested some. But we'll look into it, as we grow user base it may make sense to have that. However, we have a bootstrap theme, where elements are styles like Bootstrap.
@rlacombe @estraschnov Well we're not saying we're going to replace all of software engineering and make it without code, but we're hoping to make that 80% of the tasks/apps that require code today won't in the future, so that engineers (the ones that code) can work on more fundamental stuff.
To you question: it's something we haven't explored yet too much (mostly because of resources), but I see Bubble as an intermediate between Scratch and code, and so that could be a great tool to teach kids how to think in a programmatic way, thinking about flows, data structure, conditions, etc, while not having to worry too much for the syntax, with I think is 1) tedious 2) not for everyone
Matt Lhoumeau: @estraschnov Really impressed by your product. It's clever and simple. And even though I think users will eventually be limited by this "no-code" approach, it's definitely a great way to quickly launch a new idea, test it, and get some traction before going deeper in the code. Good job! I will definitely recommend it to young entrepreneurs with no dev resources.
@estraschnov “80% of the tasks/apps that require code today won't in the future, so that engineers (the ones that code) can work on more fundamental stuff”
+1 on that. So much programming time being “wasted” on coding UI’s etc. Great stuff you’re building!
@estraschnov Big fan of this approach. Abstracting out first generation 'development' interfaces is a huge problem that gets in the way of adopting new tech - I've argued this about CAD and 3D Printing, but definitely code as well. Even if you can get, as you say, 80% of the way, there, that's that many more people building their own stuff, which is great for the ecosystem.
One thing I'm looking for as this builds out, is integration into existing workflows - basically, how can someone, as a non-coder, 'apply code' into what I'm already doing (say, building out collateral in Photoshop), without having to think about if that functionality is code or not.
Something along those lines - huge opportunity to you guys, but code becomes, for more and more people, just plumbing and not a functional skillset.
I dunno, zooming out, what genuinely excites me about this approach is that it opens up - not in its current iteration, but someday - the opportunity for a kid in a slum to program something that solves a problem for him and his without having to know how to read, do math, code, or have anything more in his hand than an old Nokia brick.
@shloky @estraschnov Yeah, that's exactly what we find exciting as well :)
The way we want to do it is to enable coders to add elements, events, actions and data sources in Bubble, that would then have a visual interface that non coders can use (the Bubble editor). In fact, that's what we do internally, we build these bricks, but we'll open that to people at some point (as early as possible).
Fred Rivett: @andupotorac Sure. I skipped through the video (its 30mins long) so I can't comment too much here. Looked like they're on the right tracks with it.
@fredrivett I wouldn't call it a good start, but one of the best approaches. Why? Because right now there's only two approaches to responsiveness when it comes to site builders: complete freedom (readymag, wix), or restricted movement (weebly, yola, jimdo, most..). I exclude those where you can write your own code specifically to make this work (webydo, webflow).
So they are a mix between the two: freedom (move it where you want) and they still create a responsive layout by the approach they have taken. It's genius and hasn't been done before. :)
Fred Rivett: @andupotorac Nice, just had a quick flick through. Looks like a good start on a responsive website builder :)
Andu POTORAC: @fredrivett They released an update that addresses responsiveness. It's beautiful and you can preview it here:.
David Larpent: @estraschnov @cute_life but the difference is after 6 months of building with bubble you don't end up with a codebase you can continue to build on. Your MVP cannot become the base code for a real product... right? Or have I misunderstood?
Mariana Salcido: @msahajwani I know it was long time ago but... Can I embed then on my website?
Manish Sahajwani: @estraschnov Thank you!
Emmanuel Straschnov: @manuel_maccou It depends on the case. If it's something everybody wants generally no, but otherwise we may ask for a "sponsoring".
Manuel Maccou: @estraschnov Thanks for the response! Is adding something on request cost extra?
Emmanuel Straschnov: @taykcrane @estraschnov What our user didn't add is the tagging system (hashtags, etc.) Not very hard, but we'd have to add it to Bubble's editor. Besides that, user, logins, messaging, tweeting, retweeting, favoriting, it already does it all :)
Marcell Almeida: @rlacombe @estraschnov I strong believe that this is the future of programming. Not sure how long it will take. But as something similar, but focused on games, you can see Construct 2 https://www.scirra.com/construct2
David Iwanow: @estraschnov ah that's perfect... I'm away on vacation for a bit so will have more time to finish the tutorial when I return but will also look into phonegap once I get the hang of your platform
Emmanuel Straschnov: @davidiwanow We're focused on responsive right now, hopefully done in a few weeks. We have some users that have packaged their iOS app with phonegap, but it's still in early beta. It's a bit hard for us to commit on a timeline. i'd love to say around the Fall/early winter, but can't promise.
Emmanuel Straschnov: @davidiwanow :)
David Iwanow: @estraschnov I have just started the welcome tutorials but did have a question on how the progress allowing Bubble apps to be exported to iOS and Android was going?
Emmanuel Straschnov: @colinvincent sure! I'll drop you a line soon
Emmanuel Straschnov: @manuel_maccou We haven't added all the calls, but that's the kind of things we add on request. Right now you can get the profile after the user authenticates and get the list of friends.
Emmanuel Straschnov: @emilmikhailov Thanks!
Emmanuel Straschnov: @tarareed_ Thanks Tara :)
Emmanuel Straschnov: @mattlhoumeau @estraschnov Thanks!! Well, we have an answer to the no-code objection (though haven't made it public yet). Our answer is "still code", but only for the new things. In other words, we're going to expose the API so that people can build their own plugins (elements, actions, data sources). At this point, you'll leverage what already exists visually, and you'll hire (or code yourself if you happen to be a coder) someone for the missing parts. A little bit like open source today, but more accessible as you don't need to be technical to use it.
Shlok Vaidya: @estraschnov Do this for drones/IoT functionality. Huge ecosystem plays to be had if you can unlock legos-for-code protocol.
Emmanuel Straschnov: @chistopheeric Thanks
Emmanuel Straschnov: @sujamthe You're right, we changed the language. We were not putting them on a plan and having them stay on it after (we don't have the credit card info anyway), it was just a free full feature month. But the language was ambiguous I agree.
Emmanuel Straschnov: @jefon Yes it is!
Amit Sonawane: @estraschnov thanks :) yes, going through the lessons now.
@amitsonawane The best way is to try it (and it's free) :), but it's quite powerful. And CRM is very much database management, which is what Bubble is built for.
A user cloned most of Twitter, one our bigger clients sells loans for solar panel, and the whole process for people to get approved, get their money, for installers to see the different projects, etc. is done through a web app built on Bubble (they don't have engineers).
There might some APIs or some other things that we need to add at some point, but 1) there are very often some workarounds 2) we do add features on requests. In fact, probably 30% of the features we have now have been added after explicit requests (sometimes sponsored).
Taylor Crane: @estraschnov What was the 10% of Twitter that couldn't be replicated? I have a feeling it's pretty crucial to what Twitter is... e.g. users and logins.
Emmanuel Straschnov: @p_shrihari Yes, we'd love Bubble to be more used as a learning tool. We haven't really had time to push on this as it requires a lot of content, but we'd love to see people use it that way.
Emmanuel Straschnov: @hello_alanleong bubbling... I love it :)
Tara Reed: @hello_alanleong wow! thanks :)
Emmanuel Straschnov: @nickcdavis Thanks!!
Tom Söderlund: @jfilcik Great collection! Subscribed. /Tom (founder of Weld)
Emmanuel Straschnov: @shloky @estraschnov Yes, I've been looking at littlebits with interest. If a hardware maker as a reasonable API, it's actually not too to hard to see how that would work on Bubble, with events, data sources and actions :)
Emmanuel Straschnov: @msahajwani Of course. We use a bunch of stuff, but in general, we're on node.js, use elasticsearch of applications' data, firebase for applications (the actual app you build in the editor) and use intensively coffeescript/jquery. Applications are rendered client side.
Vladimir Leytus: @stedmanblake thanks for the shoutout! That's precisely what we're trying to do - use shorter iteration cycles to greatly speed-up the development process. Also, we're at www.airdev.co, unfortunately www.airdev.com was taken :)
@iwaffles Thanks!! So to your questions:
2) We have an enterprise version of our code that people can run on their own infrastructure. That's for users that have larger traffic and that want to keep control on their servers, but it's definitely possible.
Emmanuel Straschnov: @namitasha So we have this
where we build a more sophisticated app in front of some people. it's a year old (and with an older UI), but same logic. The first 20 minutes are about building the app, then it's Q&A.
Emmanuel Straschnov: @bing_ario Let us know how she likes it :)
Emmanuel Straschnov: @jfilcik That's awesome :)
@cute_life We have a forum where users are pretty active, and some people are actually building apps for people.
Pricing-wise, I think we're still cheaper than an actual coder. We're a bit more expensive than if you host it yourself (we take our margin), but you don't need to hire someone to handle the server.
Glen One N:
Hold on. I just seen your monthly plans.... it'll probably cost me the same amount to out source the coding for a basic web app [without having to do it myself] as your month 'custom' plan :(
I might have to keep looking or spend all my time learning to use Bubble. Harsh choice...
Emmanuel Straschnov: @luisobo :)
Emmanuel Straschnov: @kobyof Thanks!!
Emmanuel Straschnov: @meiiowmarsh Thanks!! Well we wanted to be ready:)
Emmanuel Straschnov: @benjiwheeler I would say sign up? :) It's free, and the first lessons (click by click, not videos) are probably the best way to see how it works. Each of them takes about 10 minutes, and cover a lot of the logic.
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